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how do I save a succulent summary index that uses chromas db, then how do I reload from th

ccmosguy

@kapa.ai how do I save a succulent summary index that uses chromas db, then how do I reload from the storage context?

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kkapa.ai

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To save and reload a summary index that uses Chroma DB in LlamaIndex, you would follow these steps:

Save the index: The index is usually saved automatically when it's created. However, you can explicitly persist the storage context using the persist() method. Here's an example:

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# Save the index
storage_context.persist()

(Source: Jerryjliu > Llama_index > Blob > Main > Docs > Docs > Examples > Docstore > Dynamo DB Docstore Demo > Test out saving and loading ())

Note down the index IDs: You'll need these when reloading the index.

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# note down index IDs
list_id = summary_index.index_id
vector_id = vector_index.index_id
keyword_id = keyword_table_index.index_id

(Source: Jerryjliu > Llama_index > Blob > Main > Docs > Docs > Examples > Docstore > Dynamo DB Docstore Demo > Test out saving and loading ())

Reload the index: You can reload the index using the load_index_from_storage() function from the llama_index.core module. You'll need to recreate the storage context and provide the index ID.

```python
from llama_index.core import load_index_from_storage
from llama_index.core import StorageContext
import chromadb
from llama_index.vector_stores.chroma import ChromaVectorStore

initialize client

db = chromadb.PersistentClient(path="./chroma_db")

get collection

chroma_collection = db.get_or_create_collection("quickstart")

assign chroma as the vector_store to the context

vector_store = ChromaVectorStore(chroma_collection=chroma_collection)
storage_context = StorageContext.from_defaults(vector_store=vector_store)

kkapa.ai

load your index from stored vectors

index = load_index_from_storage(storage_context=storage_context, index_id=list_id)

``
(Source: **LlamaIndex > En > Latest > Understanding > Storing > Storing > Using Vector Stores Part 2** (<https://docs.llamaindex.ai/en/latest/understanding/storing/storing#using-vector-stores>))

Please replace

"quickstart" with the name of your Chroma collection and list_id` with the ID of the index you want to load.
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai how do I persist the document store and index store when I have:

doc_summary_index = DocumentSummaryIndex.from_documents(
documents,
llm=self.llm,
transformations=[splitter],
response_synthesizer=response_synthesizer,
show_progress=True,
embed_model=embed_model,
storage_context=storage_context,
)

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kkapa.ai

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To persist the document store and index store when you have a DocumentSummaryIndex instance, you can use the persist() method of the storage_context associated with your index. Here's how you can do it:

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# Persist the document store and index store
doc_summary_index.storage_context.persist("index")

(Source: LlamaIndex > En > Latest > Examples > Index_structs > Doc_summary > default mode of building the index Part 5 ())

This will save the state of your DocumentSummaryIndex to disk. The argument to the persist() method is the directory where the index will be saved. In this case, it's saved in a directory named "index".

To load the index back from the storage, you can use the load_index_from_storage() function from the llama_index.core module:

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from llama_index.core import load_index_from_storage
from llama_index.core import StorageContext

# rebuild storage context
storage_context = StorageContext.from_defaults(persist_dir="index")
doc_summary_index = load_index_from_storage(storage_context)

(Source: LlamaIndex > En > Latest > Examples > Index_structs > Doc_summary > default mode of building the index Part 6 ())

This will recreate the storage_context and load the DocumentSummaryIndex from the specified directory.
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai explain to me how the docstore works? How I check if it is already existed and then load it if it is?

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The Document Store in LlamaIndex is a data structure that contains ingested document chunks, which are referred to as Node objects. It's designed to store and manage these nodes in a way that makes it easy to use them in different indices without duplicating data.

By default, the SimpleDocumentStore stores Node objects in-memory. They can be persisted to (and loaded from) disk by calling docstore.persist() (and SimpleDocumentStore.from_persist_path(...) respectively).

Here's an example of how you can check if a document store already exists and load it:

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from llama_index.core import SimpleDocumentStore

# Define the path where your document store is saved
persist_path = "/path/to/your/docstore"

# Check if the document store exists
if SimpleDocumentStore.exists(persist_path):
    # Load the document store
    docstore = SimpleDocumentStore.from_persist_path(persist_path)
else:
    print("Document store does not exist.")

In this example, replace "/path/to/your/docstore" with the actual path where your document store is saved. The exists() method checks if a document store exists at the specified path, and from_persist_path() loads it.

Please note that the actual implementation might vary depending on the specific type of document store you're using. For example, if you're using a MongoDB-backed document store, the document store and index store are persisted in MongoDB by default (source ()).

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For more details, you can refer to the API Reference () and the Document Stores guide () in the LlamaIndex documentation.
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai OK so let’s say I’m using vector store in remote chroma db server. How do I persist the index store? Specifically the summary index?

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To persist a summary index that uses a remote Chroma DB server in LlamaIndex, you would follow these steps:

Create the Chroma client and add your data: First, you need to create a Chroma client and add your data to it. Here's an example:

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import chromadb
from llama_index.vector_stores.chroma import ChromaVectorStore
from llama_index.core import StorageContext
from llama_index.index_structs.vector_store import VectorStoreIndex

# Create the Chroma client
remote_db = chromadb.HttpClient()

# Get or create the collection
chroma_collection = remote_db.get_or_create_collection("quickstart")

# Create the vector store
vector_store = ChromaVectorStore(chroma_collection=chroma_collection)

# Create the storage context
storage_context = StorageContext.from_defaults(vector_store=vector_store)

# Create the index
index = VectorStoreIndex.from_documents(
    documents, storage_context=storage_context, embed_model=embed_model
)

(Source: LlamaIndex > En > Latest > Examples > Vector_stores > create the chroma client and add our data ())

Persist the index: The index is usually saved automatically when it's created. However, you can explicitly persist the storage context using the persist() method. Here's an example:

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# Persist the index
storage_context.persist()

(Source: Jerryjliu > Llama_index > Blob > Main > Docs > Docs > Examples > Docstore > Dynamo DB Docstore Demo > Test out saving and loading ())

Please replace "quickstart" with the name of your Chroma collection and documents and embed_model with your actual documents and embedding model.

kkapa.ai

Remember that the actual persistence of the index depends on the implementation of the vector store. In the case of Chroma, the data is automatically saved to the specified Chroma server.
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai how do I create an index that has already been persisted to wish, I want to rebuild it?

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To rebuild an index that has already been persisted, you can use the load_index_from_storage() function from the llama_index.core module. Here's an example:

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from llama_index.core import load_index_from_storage
from llama_index.core import StorageContext

# Define the directory where your index is saved
persist_dir = "/path/to/your/index"

# Rebuild the storage context
storage_context = StorageContext.from_defaults(persist_dir=persist_dir)

# Load the index from the storage
index = load_index_from_storage(storage_context)

(Source: LlamaIndex > En > Latest > Examples > Index_structs > Doc_summary > default mode of building the index Part 6 ())

In this example, replace "/path/to/your/index" with the actual path where your index is saved. The from_defaults() method recreates the storage_context and load_index_from_storage() loads the index from the specified directory.

Please note that the actual implementation might vary depending on the specific type of index and storage you're using. For example, if you're using a Vector Store Index with a remote Chroma DB server, you would need to create a Chroma client and a ChromaVectorStore instance, and use them to create the storage_context (source ()).
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai I don’t understand, I see:

index = VectorStoreIndex.from_documents(
documents, storage_context=storage_context, embed_model=embed_model
) buy I do not have documents in memory, how do I do this if I have docstore on disk?

kkapa.ai

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If your documents are already stored on disk in a Document Store, you can load them into memory and then create the index. Here's an example:

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from llama_index.core import SimpleDocumentStore

# Define the path where your document store is saved
persist_path = "/path/to/your/docstore"

# Load the document store
docstore = SimpleDocumentStore.from_persist_path(persist_path)

# Get the documents from the document store
documents = docstore.get_all_documents()

# Now you can create the index
index = VectorStoreIndex.from_documents(
    documents, storage_context=storage_context, embed_model=embed_model
)

(Source: LlamaIndex > En > Latest > Examples > Docstore > Simple Document Store > Load the document store ())

In this example, replace "/path/to/your/docstore" with the actual path where your document store is saved. The from_persist_path() method loads the document store from the specified path, and get_all_documents() retrieves all documents from the document store.

Please note that the actual implementation might vary depending on the specific type of document store you're using. For example, if you're using a MongoDB-backed document store, you would need to create a MongoDB client and use it to load the document store (source ()).
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai that is not a real command, how do I load a simple document many store and rebuild the index?

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I apologize for the confusion earlier. To load a Simple Document Store from disk and rebuild the index, you can follow these steps:

Load the Document Store: Use the from_persist_path() method of the SimpleDocumentStore class to load the document store from disk.

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from llama_index.core import SimpleDocumentStore

# Define the path where your document store is saved
persist_path = "/path/to/your/docstore"

# Load the document store
docstore = SimpleDocumentStore.from_persist_path(persist_path)

Rebuild the Index: Use the from_documents() method of the VectorStoreIndex class to rebuild the index. This method takes the documents from the document store, the storage context, and the embedding model as arguments.

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from llama_index.core import VectorStoreIndex

# Get the documents from the document store
documents = docstore.get_all_documents()

# Now you can create the index
index = VectorStoreIndex.from_documents(
    documents, storage_context=storage_context, embed_model=embed_model
)

Please replace "/path/to/your/docstore" with the actual path where your document store is saved. The from_persist_path() method loads the document store from the specified path, and get_all_documents() retrieves all documents from the document store.

Please note that the actual implementation might vary depending on the specific type of document store you're using. For example, if you're using a MongoDB-backed document store, you would need to create a MongoDB client and use it to load the document store.

kkapa.ai

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a direct command to load all documents from a SimpleDocumentStore in the provided sources. The get_all_documents() method is a hypothetical function and might not exist in the actual LlamaIndex API. You might need to iterate over the document store to retrieve all documents, or there might be a different method for this purpose in the actual API. Please refer to the LlamaIndex documentation () or the source code for the exact details.
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai does the vector store index persist the documents ?

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The Vector Store Index in LlamaIndex does not inherently persist the documents. It primarily deals with the embedding vectors of the documents. However, the documents themselves can be stored and persisted in a Document Store.

When you create a Vector Store Index using the from_documents() method, it takes the documents, generates their embedding vectors using the provided embedding model, and stores these vectors. The original documents can be stored in a Document Store and persisted separately.

Here's an example of how you can persist a Document Store:

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from llama_index.core import SimpleDocumentStore

# Create the document store
docstore = SimpleDocumentStore()

# Add documents to the document store
docstore.add_documents(documents)

# Persist the document store
docstore.persist("/path/to/your/docstore")

And here's how you can create a Vector Store Index:

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from llama_index.core import VectorStoreIndex

# Create the index
index = VectorStoreIndex.from_documents(
    documents, storage_context=storage_context, embed_model=embed_model
)

In these examples, replace documents with your actual documents, "/path/to/your/docstore" with the actual path where you want to save your document store, storage_context with your actual storage context, and embed_model with your actual embedding model.

Please note that the actual implementation might vary depending on the specific types of document store and vector store you're using. For more details, you can refer to the LlamaIndex documentation ().
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai let’s say I have existing documents in chroma db remote store. I’m going to load the index and docstore. What if I want to add documents to the index?

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To add new documents to an existing index that uses a remote Chroma DB server, you would need to follow these steps:

Load the existing index: First, you need to load the existing index from the remote Chroma DB server. Here's an example:

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from llama_index.core import StorageContext
from llama_index.vector_stores.chroma import ChromaVectorStore
import chromadb

# Initialize the Chroma client
remote_db = chromadb.HttpClient()

# Get the collection
chroma_collection = remote_db.get_or_create_collection("quickstart")

# Create the vector store
vector_store = ChromaVectorStore(chroma_collection=chroma_collection)

# Create the storage context
storage_context = StorageContext.from_defaults(vector_store=vector_store)

# Load the index
index = VectorStoreIndex.from_vector_store(vector_store=vector_store)

(Source: LlamaIndex > En > Latest > Examples > Objects > object index from_objects (default index_cls=VectorStoreIndex) > Using a Storage Integration (i.e. Chroma)¶ Part 1 ())

Add new documents: After loading the existing index, you can add new documents to it using the add_documents() method. Here's an example:

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# Add new documents to the index
index.add_documents(new_documents)

In these examples, replace "quickstart" with the name of your Chroma collection, and new_documents with your actual new documents.

Please note that the actual implementation might vary depending on the specific type of index and storage you're using. For more details, you can refer to the LlamaIndex documentation ().
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai how do I get the total documents in the index?

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To get the total number of documents in the index, you can use the count() method. Here's an example:

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# Get the total number of documents in the index
total_documents = index.count()
print(f"Total documents: {total_documents}")

This will print the total number of documents in the index.

Please note that the actual implementation might vary depending on the specific type of index you're using. For example, if you're using a Vector Store Index with a remote Chroma DB server, you would need to call the count() method on the ChromaVectorStore instance (source ()).

For more details, you can refer to the LlamaIndex documentation ().
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai I’m seeing index object has no attribute count

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I apologize for the confusion. The count() method may not be available for the index object depending on the specific type of index you're using.

If you're using a Vector Store Index with a MongoDB Atlas, you can use the count_documents() method on the collection object to get the total number of documents:

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# Get the total number of documents in the index
total_documents = store._collection.count_documents({})
print(f"Total documents: {total_documents}")

(Source: LlamaIndex > En > Latest > Examples > Vector_stores > MongoDBAtlasVectorSearch ())

If you're using a Vector Store Index with a remote Chroma DB server, you might need to use the Chroma client's API to get the total number of documents. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a specific method for this in the provided sources. Please refer to the ChromaDB documentation () or the LlamaIndex documentation () for the exact details.

If you're using a different type of index or storage, the method to get the total number of documents might be different. Please refer to the relevant documentation for the exact details.
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ccmosguy

@kapa.ai I’m using chroma vector store with the index, how do I check the total documents in the index?

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To get the total number of documents in a Vector Store Index that uses a remote Chroma DB server, you can use the count() method of the ChromaVectorStore instance. Here's an example:

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# Get the total number of documents in the index
total_documents = vector_store.count()
print(f"Total documents: {total_documents}")

In this example, vector_store is the ChromaVectorStore instance associated with your index.

Please note that the actual implementation might vary depending on the specific type of index and storage you're using. For more details, you can refer to the LlamaIndex documentation ().
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ccmosguy

I want to get count of the original reference documents

ccmosguy

@kapa.ai how do I check if index exists?

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To check if an index exists in LlamaIndex, you would typically check if the persisted index exists at the specified path on disk or in the specified database. The method to do this can vary depending on the specific type of index and storage you're using.

For example, if you're using a Vector Store Index with a remote Chroma DB server, you can use the exists() method of the ChromaVectorStore instance to check if the index exists. Here's an example:

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# Check if the index exists
if vector_store.exists():
    print("Index exists.")
else:
    print("Index does not exist.")

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