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Hi I'm generating structured predicted output, and the output throws an error: `dumps_kwar

@kapa.ai Hi I'm generating structured predicted output, and the output throws an error: dumps_kwargs keyword arguments are no longer supported.
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I apologize, but the knowledge sources provided do not contain specific information about an error related to dumps_kwargs keyword arguments in structured prediction output. The error you're encountering is not directly addressed in the given information about LlamaIndex.

However, I can provide some general information about structured prediction in LlamaIndex based on the available knowledge sources:

LlamaIndex supports structured prediction using Pydantic models. The structured_predict method is available in various LLM classes, including OpenAI and Ollama. Here's a basic example of how structured prediction is typically used:

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from llama_index.core.bridge.pydantic import BaseModel, Field

class SomeStructure(BaseModel):
    field1: str = Field(description="Description of field1")
    field2: int = Field(description="Description of field2")

result = llm.structured_predict(
    output_cls=SomeStructure,
    prompt=some_prompt_template,
    **prompt_args
)


If you're encountering an error related to dumps_kwargs, it's possible that there have been changes in the API or dependencies that are not reflected in the provided knowledge sources. I would recommend checking the following:

  1. Ensure you're using the latest version of LlamaIndex and its dependencies.
  2. Review the LlamaIndex Changelog for any recent changes that might affect structured prediction.
  3. If the issue persists, consider reaching out to the LlamaIndex community or filing an issue on their GitHub repository for more specific assistance.
For the most up-to-date and accurate information on using structured prediction in LlamaIndex, please refer to the official LlamaIndex documentation.
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from llama_index.core.bridge.pydantic import BaseModel, Field

class ConversationTitleDescription(BaseModel):
    """A representation of title and description of conversation"""

    title: str = Field(
        description="A unique title for the conversation."
    )
    description: str = Field(
        description="A unique description for the conversation."
    )


here is the model I'm using. calling the predition as you did. Why am I getting dumps_kwargs keyword arguments are no longer supported.?
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I apologize, but the knowledge sources provided do not contain specific information about the dumps_kwargs error you're encountering. This error is not directly related to the LlamaIndex structured prediction functionality as described in the available documentation.

However, based on the information provided in the knowledge sources, I can offer some insights and suggestions:

  1. The Pydantic model you've defined looks correct and follows the structure shown in the examples from the LlamaIndex documentation.
  1. The error dumps_kwargs keyword arguments are no longer supported suggests that there might be an issue with the serialization of the Pydantic model, possibly related to recent changes in Pydantic or its integration with LlamaIndex.
To troubleshoot this issue, you could try the following:

  1. Ensure you're using the latest version of LlamaIndex and Pydantic. The error might be due to version incompatibilities.
  1. Double-check how you're calling the structured_predict method. Based on the examples in the knowledge sources, it should look something like this:
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   from llama_index.core.prompts import PromptTemplate
   
   llm = YourLLMInstance()  # Replace with your actual LLM instance
   prompt_tmpl = PromptTemplate("Your prompt text here {some_variable}")
   
   result = llm.structured_predict(
       ConversationTitleDescription, 
       prompt_tmpl, 
       some_variable="Your value here"
   )
   


  1. If you're using a specific LLM implementation, make sure you're following the correct syntax for that implementation. For example, the Anthropic and MistralAI implementations have slightly different ways of calling structured prediction.
  1. Check the LlamaIndex Changelog for any recent updates that might affect structured prediction or Pydantic integration.
If the issue persists after trying these suggestions, it would be best to consult the official LlamaIndex documentation or reach out to the LlamaIndex community for more specific assistance, as the provided knowledge sources don't contain information about this particular error.
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Based on the code you've provided and the information available in the knowledge sources, I can offer some insights and suggestions regarding your use of structured prediction with Ollama in LlamaIndex.

  1. Model Initialization:
Your code initializes the Ollama model correctly. However, you've set json_mode=False. According to the Ollama documentation, JSON mode can be helpful when trying to ensure all responses are valid JSON, which is particularly useful for structured outputs. You might want to consider setting json_mode=True:

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model = Ollama(model="llama3:8b", json_mode=True, temperature=0)


  1. Structured LLM:
You're correctly using the as_structured_llm method to create a structured LLM with your ConversationTitleDescription class.

  1. Prompt Template and Chat:
Your use of PromptTemplate and ChatMessage appears correct based on the examples in the knowledge sources.

  1. Response:
You're printing the response directly, which might not give you the structured output you're expecting. Instead, you should access the content of the response. Based on the Ollama examples, you might want to try:

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response = sllm.chat([input_msg])
print(response.message.content)


If you want to access the actual structured object, you can use:

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output_obj = response.raw
print(output_obj)


  1. Streaming Option:
If you want to see the structured output being built progressively, you could use the streaming option as shown in the Ollama documentation:

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response_gen = sllm.stream_chat([input_msg])
for r in response_gen:
    print(r.message.content)
If you're still encountering issues or not getting the expected output, it might be helpful to check the following:

  • Ensure your ConversationTitleDescription class is correctly defined as shown in your previous message.
  • Verify that the DESCRIBE_CONVERSATION_RETURN_TITLE_DESCRIPTION template is properly formatted to elicit a response that matches your Pydantic model.
  • Check that the Ollama model you're using ("llama3:8b") is capable of generating the structured output you're expecting.
If you continue to face problems, you might want to try using the structured_predict method directly, as shown in the OpenAI examples:

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result = model.structured_predict(
    ConversationTitleDescription, 
    prompt_template, 
    user_message=data['message']
)
print(result)


Remember that the exact behavior might vary depending on the specific version of LlamaIndex and Ollama you're using. Always refer to the most recent documentation for the most up-to-date information.
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model = Ollama(model="llama3:8b", json_mode=False, temperature=0)

sllm = model.as_structured_llm(output_cls=ConversationTitleDescription)

prompt_template = PromptTemplate(
template=DESCRIBE_CONVERSATION_RETURN_TITLE_DESCRIPTION,
)
formatted_prompt = prompt_template.format(user_message=data['message'])
input_msg = ChatMessage.from_str(formatted_prompt)

response = sllm.chat([input_msg])

print(response)


This is output:

Could not extract json string from output: Here is the output:

{
"description": "A student seeking help with their Matlab homework",
"title": "Matlab Homework Assistance Needed"
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Based on the output you've provided and the information from the knowledge sources, it appears that the JSON output from the Ollama model is incomplete. The closing brace } is missing, which is causing the JSON parsing to fail. This issue can be addressed by making a few adjustments to your code:

  1. Enable JSON mode:
As suggested in the Ollama documentation, setting json_mode=True can help ensure that the responses are valid JSON:

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model = Ollama(model="llama3:8b", json_mode=True, temperature=0)


  1. Use a JSON parser:
To handle potential JSON parsing issues, you can use a more robust JSON parsing method. The Ollama documentation provides an example of how to extract JSON from the output:

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def _marshal_output_to_json(output: str) -> str:
    output = output.strip()
    left = output.find("{")
    right = output.rfind("}")
    output = output[left : right + 1]
    return output

# After getting the response
json_output = _marshal_output_to_json(str(response))
parsed_output = json.loads(json_output)
print(parsed_output)


  1. Access the structured output:
As mentioned in the Ollama examples, you can access the structured output directly:

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output_obj = response.raw
print(output_obj)


  1. Consider using structured_predict:
As an alternative, you could use the structured_predict method directly, which might handle the parsing more robustly:

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result = model.structured_predict(
    ConversationTitleDescription, 
    prompt_template, 
    user_message=data['message']
)
print(result)


If you continue to face issues, you might want to try the streaming option to see how the output is being generated:
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response_gen = sllm.stream_chat([input_msg])
for r in response_gen:
    print(r.message.content)


Remember that the behavior of the model can vary depending on the specific version of LlamaIndex and Ollama you're using. Always refer to the most recent LlamaIndex documentation for the most up-to-date information on handling structured outputs with Ollama.
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@yadibolt do you have some old version of the package? Or whats the full traceback? dumps_kwargs is not mentioned anywhere in the codebase
hey the full traceback is just that πŸ˜…
ill have to check the version tho
I'm at 0.12.10
hmm. Sounds pretty sus. How is there no full traceback πŸ€” If you can reproduce on google colab, that would be extremely helpful. Then I can take that and actually debug whats up
upgrade solved it but... The output looks like this:

assistant: { ... data ...}
that's why I could not process the json, because there was "assistant:" in it
the output is json_format=True as well
this is the code right now:
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llm = Ollama(model="llama3:8b", json_mode=True, request_timeout=600)
                sllm = llm.as_structured_llm(ConversationTitleDescription)
                prompt = PromptTemplate(DESCRIBE_CONVERSATION_RETURN_TITLE_DESCRIPTION)
                struct_prompt = prompt.format(user_message=data['message'])
                input_msg = ChatMessage.from_str(struct_prompt)
                response = sllm.chat([input_msg])
                print(response) # TODO
It must be something with the prompt
@kapa.ai the result I'm getting looks like this:

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assistant: {"title":"Laughter is the Best Medicine","description":"A humorous conversation about a joke"}

which is fine, but there is "assistant:" in it, not sure why
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Thank you for providing that additional information about the output you're receiving. The presence of "assistant:" in the response is indeed unusual for a structured output. Let me explain why this might be happening and suggest some solutions based on the information available in the knowledge sources.

The "assistant:" prefix suggests that the model is treating the output as a chat message rather than a pure structured output. This behavior is not typical for structured prediction in LlamaIndex, but it can occur depending on how the model is configured and how the prompt is structured.

To address this issue, you can try the following approaches:

  1. Use the raw attribute:
As mentioned in the LlamaIndex documentation for structured outputs, you can access the actual structured object using the raw attribute:

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output_obj = response.raw
print(output_obj)


This should give you the parsed object without the "assistant:" prefix.

  1. Remove the prefix manually:
If the raw attribute doesn't solve the issue, you can remove the prefix manually:

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response_str = str(response).replace("assistant: ", "")
parsed_output = json.loads(response_str)
print(parsed_output)


  1. Adjust the prompt:
Make sure your prompt (DESCRIBE_CONVERSATION_RETURN_TITLE_DESCRIPTION) is clearly instructing the model to return only the JSON structure without any additional text.

  1. Use structured_predict directly:
Instead of using chat, try using the structured_predict method, which is designed specifically for structured outputs:

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result = model.structured_predict(
    ConversationTitleDescription,
    prompt_template,
    user_message=data['message']
)
print(result)
  1. Check the model configuration:
Ensure that the Ollama model is configured correctly for structured outputs. You might want to double-check the json_mode setting:

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model = Ollama(model="llama3:8b", json_mode=True, temperature=0)


If you continue to face issues, it might be helpful to review the full prompt and model configuration to ensure they are optimized for structured output generation. Additionally, checking the LlamaIndex Changelog for any recent updates related to structured prediction or Ollama integration could provide more insights.

Remember, the exact behavior can vary depending on the specific versions of LlamaIndex and Ollama you're using. Always refer to the most recent documentation for the most up-to-date information on handling structured outputs with Ollama in LlamaIndex.
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llama3 is very bad a structured outputs (like most open-source llms tbh), especially 8b
try something newer? 3.1, 3.2, 3.3?
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